Jan. 30th, 2009 10:16 pm
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I completely forgot that tonight was an Avonex night. In fact I forgot about everything for the duration of the fucking show.

They said it was going to be getting darker and darker as the last half of the last season progressed. It has the pace of an avalanche. And you're right under it, on a nice big flat piece of wood. You can possibly ride it.

Characterologically, the complications are ramifying: everybody's got some kind of analogue somewhere, and they're all pairing off, and sometimes pairing off retroactively. TYROL/CAVIL, TYROL/BALTAR, BALTAR/ROSLIN, GAETA/ZAREK, NEWSTARBUCK/OLDSTARBUCK, etc.

It has the feel of tiles snicking into place, and for every wrenching fangirl moment (sob! please let them not be dead), there also seems to be some factor, some focusing agent, such that the narrative is shown to be fractal. Some kind of temporal isomorphism: pulling out from the moment to the era to the age to ftw.

*goes off to administer injection, and watch the ep again*

Date: 2009-01-31 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danschank.livejournal.com
yeah, these past three episodes have been pretty awesome. and i had almost lost complete faith in the show during the first "half" of season four. i thought baltar's religion was silly, and the whole mono vs/ poly thing in terms of religion seemed broad and lame in a way that the rest of the show isn't (e.g. roslin having a mystical black woman to help solve her problems).

but now, like you've said, there's a sense that the writing is more focused - like they actually have a plan in mind to end this thing, and it seems like there's a threat of people actually dying (my bet is on tigh being dead, but then resurrecting with ellen, personally).

and i gotta say the fanboy in me totally goes for that SOMEONE MIGHT DIE OMG type stuff. i feel like part of the fun of these shows is desiring to be frustrated and emotionally manipulated by them.

Date: 2009-01-31 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] all-unnecessary.livejournal.com
I dunno, 4.0 had some of my favorite eps ever (escape velocity, faith, the hub), though I'll grant you the point about the Magical Negro. I still don't know how they'd handle talking about OUR situation wrt religion and race otherwise, however, not without pissing off a whole lot of people. Have you seen the somewhat acrimonious debate going on in the battlestar comm about Gaeta/Zarek? I don't think that kind of conversation would be possible without the plotting of BOTH Baltar and Roslin as frauds somehow.

And I sooooo hope you are right about Tigh and Ellen.

Date: 2009-01-31 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danschank.livejournal.com
yeah, i think they're beginning to pull everything together in a way i was beginning to doubt. i guess i felt like towards the end of season three things began to lose their focus? like, lee's career as a lawyer felt kinda hurried and contrived, as did baltar's trial (confession: baltar is my least favorite character). and i thought some of the subsequent stuff about faith felt soapy and sentimental (like when the president suddenly decides to wrap up baltar's wound). though i agree that the sudden loss of faith has worked its way into the current situation *really* well.

what i like best about the show right now is the way it's making me aware of my own unusual perspective. like - what gaeta and zarek are stirring up is totally justified, unless you're privvy to the info that i know as an audience member. but roslin and adama ARE undemocratic, and their entire ideologies have legitimately been disgraced. i'm slightly disappointed in the need to vaguely demonize gaeta accordingly (especially since he's the second homosexual villain of the series, following the pegasus narrative), since he's kind of acting in good faith? like, i don't need some dark secret from caprica, or an ahab-like leg-as-metaphor, because everything he's fired up about is justified... and the only reason i can tell he'll be a disaster is because i've been taken behind the scenes of roslin/adama's world as an audience member. i think the show is doing a good job of addressing government transparency. but i always gravitate to the political stuff; i think that's BSG's strongest suit, to be honest.

ahab-like leg-as-metaphor

Date: 2009-01-31 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] all-unnecessary.livejournal.com
YES, didn't catch that at first!

And also yes on BSG's strongest suit - it's been just such a wonderful ride. I'll look back on this decade (and the Bush administration more generally) and be grateful for BSG, both as distraction and as means to process some of my anxieties about the increasingly fascist state we had going there (maybe still have? - we'll just have to see about that).

Date: 2009-01-31 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danschank.livejournal.com
oh, and i haven't read much of the fan community stuff... sometimes i try to avoid all that, honestly. it bums me out how easily people tend to devolve into good guy/bad guy crap... i started reading a forum the other night, and people were posting about, like, how starbuck needs to beat gaeta with his own fake leg and shit like that. is there something interesting going on in the lj one though? AS YOU CAN TELL I'M KINDA OBSESSING OVER THIS TODAY. haha.

Oh, me too on the obsessing!

Date: 2009-01-31 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] all-unnecessary.livejournal.com
Not the skiffy one - can't stand that place - but the lj bsg comm. Here's the link:


I love some of the folks on that comm - encyclops, stop_theworld, avalon208, etc. They have the most measured, even-handed ripostes to what's sometimes blatant asshabardashery.

Re: Oh, me too on the obsessing!

Date: 2009-01-31 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danschank.livejournal.com
whoa, they really are discussing *actual ideas*!

and here i was at 4am last night trolling televisionwithoutpity threads, which felt ugly and authoritarian (also stupid, for the most part).


Re: Oh, me too on the obsessing!

Date: 2009-01-31 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] all-unnecessary.livejournal.com
Yah, those folks can be counted on to think complexly while being absolute STICKLERS for canon.
Edited Date: 2009-01-31 11:13 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-02-02 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] proximoception.livejournal.com
Keep meaning to try watching that show. Where should one start? The '70s stuff?

Date: 2009-02-02 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] all-unnecessary.livejournal.com
Nay, just read about it - it's dreadful! I have an entry some weeks back on eternal recurrence in the show that's got some links.

Just start with the miniseries, and keep going. There are some eps each season you can skip, but not many (maybe five total?). If you like the miniseries, you won't have any problem continuing, and in fact you may have to just drop out of life for as long as it takes to watch them all in succession.


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